The thread in the WH deceit and corruption tapestry leading under Scooter Libby's office door got a nice yank as revealed by the Guardian:
Information
attributed to Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff in New York
Times reporter Judith Miller's interview notes is incorrect, offering
prosecutors a potential lead to tracking the bad information to its
original source.
Miller disclosed this weekend that her notes of a conversation she had
with I. Lewis "Scooter'' Libby on July 8, 2003 stated Cheney's top aide
told her that the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson
worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms
Control (WINPAC) unit.
Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, never worked for WINPAC, an
analysis unit in the overt side of the CIA, and instead worked in a
position in the CIA's secret side, known as the directorate of
operations, according to three people familiar with her work for the
spy agency.
The three all spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the current
secrecy requirements of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's grand
jury investigation into the leak of Plame's identity in 2003 to the
media.
Ms. Run Amok may yet have other opportunities to contribute to Fitzgerald's WH roast, but her notes clearly nailed Scooter.
At
that breakfast meeting, our conversation also turned to Wilson's wife.
My notes contain a phrase inside parentheses: "Wife works at Winpac."
Fitzgerald asked what that meant. Winpac stood for Weapons
Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control, the name of a unit
within the CIA that, among other things, analyzes the spread of
unconventional weapons.
I said I couldn't be certain whether I had known Plame's identity
before this meeting, and I had no clear memory of the context of our
conversation that resulted in this notation. But I told the grand jury
that I believed that this was the first time I had heard that Wilson's
wife worked for Winpac. In fact, I told the grand jury that when Libby
indicated that Plame worked for Winpac, I assumed that she worked as an
analyst, not as an undercover operative.
Fitzgerald asked me whether Libby had mentioned nepotism. I said no.
And as I told the grand jury, I did not recall - and my interview notes
do not show - that Libby suggested that Plame had helped arrange her
husband's trip to Niger. My notes do suggest that our conversation
about Plame was brief.
Now, I just happened to be reviewing a certain interview
done by everyone's favorite wingnut reporter, Jeff James Gannon Guckert
today, and it's worth reviewing for Joseph Wilson's own theory about the
"two waves" of the leaks from the White house:
TN: Regarding the revelation of your wife as a CIA operative, do you think Karl Rove was behind the leak?
Wilson: Scott McClellan has admitted that Karl Rove spoke about
it to the press after the leak took place. Now the only thing that
we're disputing now with these guys is whether or not he used the term
"fair game" or not. Now my contemporaneous notes from a journalist who
called me say that that is precisely the term he used. My credibility,
my batting average with this administration on truthfulness is about 3
for 3 so far.
TN: But the question again: Is Karl Rove the leaker?
Wilson: I don't know the name of the leaker. I will say this:
the CIA is an executive branch agency that reports to the President of
the United States. The act of leaking the name of a national security
asset to the press was a political act. There is a political office
that is attached to the office of the President of the United States.
That office is headed by Karl Rove.
It is a useful place to start asking questions. Now, nobody has told me
the name of the leaker or who authorized the leak. I did not know until
I saw the Washington Post article that there were apparently two waves.
There was the wave of the leak, two by six, two leakers to six
journalists. And then there was a subsequent wave when Karl Rove and
perhaps the communications office were pushing the story.
TN: Novak says it wasn't the White House.
Wilson: Well I don't care. Novak has changed his story so much
that it's hard for me to understand what he is talking about. He also
says that he isn't one of the six, but that issue is somewhere between
Novak and the Washington Post and the person who leaked. I can tell you
only that Novak called me before he wrote his story asking for a
confirmation, and he confirmed to me after he wrote the story that
there were two senior administration officials who provided the
information to him. And I can tell in the week after his story
appeared, I was getting calls from reputable members of the press
saying that the White House was pushing the story.
TN: Including?
Wilson:Including my favorite, a respected journalist calling me
up, and saying, "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove, he tells me
your wife is fair game."
TN: Any names attached to these journalists?
Wilson: Well the only one that I have actually used is Andrea
Mitchell and that was in the second wave. The other two, one was a
producer, and I had not used his name before, and I will not use it
now. The third one is a fellow who me he was going to prepare to
confirm it but he then sort of went back on that, so I keep his name
private as well.
TN: Is that the basis for the "frog-march" remarks?
Wilson: Well the "frog-march" remark, the basis for that of
course is the telephone call saying that "your wife is fair game."
Absolutely.
TN: What do you think he meant by "fair game"?
Wilson: That it was okay to go ahead and drag my wife out into
the public square and administer a beating, to "slime" her as they say,
or use her to in somehow discredit me.
TN: What was the "sliming" part of it?
Wilson: I don't know.
TN: The fact that she got you the job?
Wilson: I don't know.
TN: That to me is the "Washington way."
Wilson: Well that is certainly what they are trying to say, that
some nepotism was involved, which of course is not the case. You will
have to ask them why they decided that they would "out" the name of a
national security asset.
TN: Nicholas Kristoff wrote in the New York Times recently that
the CIA believes that Aldrich Ames may have betrayed your wife to the
Russians prior to his arrest in 1994. That would make her not an
undercover operative for the CIA in effect.
Wilson: I don't know where Kristoff got that. I think that there
is a fair amount of material in the public record to suggest that there
is a lot of concern that Mr. Ames betrayed a number of American
operatives during his spying.
TN: Including your wife?
Wilson: I don't know about that. I can't tell you anything about that.
TN: But if that is in fact true, then the leak is not necessarily a leak.
Wilson: Let me put it to you this way, I don't believe that the
CIA would refer this to the Justice Department frivolously, if they
thought it was a frivolous matter or if it was not a leak that might be
a violation of the Intelligence Agents Identification Act.
TN: There are some who are skeptical that the CIA is fully on board with our actions in Iraq.
Wilson: Well, the CIA is not a policy organization, the CIA is paid to provide the best intelligence information it can.
TN: So you don't believe the CIA has an agenda that's different from that of the White House?
Wilson: Well in the particular piece of this that I own, the
trip to Niger, the CIA produced my report, but there were two other
reports produced that said that "Gee this story of uranium going to
Iraq is just bogus." Subsequent to that we now know this particular "16
words" were the subject of a number of telephone conversations and a
couple of memoranda that somehow were lost in the system or forgotten
about. But the two uncontested facts in this matter are the following:
The 16 words in the State of the Union did not rise to inclusion in the
State of the Union, that's the White House's statement. Had my report
or the other two reports been accepted instead of this information that
was based as we know on forgeries and even at the time didn't pass the
smell test for an Italian weekly tabloid, then the President would not
have found himself in this predicament. That is not a CIA betrayal of
the political system, that is if anything a political betrayal of the
intelligence assessment process.
And the second uncontested fact is that a national security asset's
name was leaked to the American public in what may have been a crime
but certainly is considered to be of sufficient concern to the CIA that
they referred the matter to the Justice Department. Now in neither of
those it seems to me do you have nefarious CIA involvement unless you
are prepared to make the argument that the CIA would have "outed" one
of its own, which seems to me to be highly, highly unlikely.
TN: From your perspective, your wife indeed was a covert operative at the time of the disclosure of her name to Robert Novak?
Wilson: It's not really from my perspective and remember this is
not a crime that has been committed against my wife or against me. If
there was a crime, it was committed against our country. The CIA has
referred the matter to the Justice Department for further
investigation, I don't believe that's a frivolous referral.
TN: If it's determined that in fact there was no leak, that no
crime was committed, are you prepared to take back some of the things
you've said?
Wilson: Well, actually what I have said is that I would support
the investigation, and the investigation will turn up what the
investigation turns up. And if there is anything to take back in all of
this, it would only be the handcuffs part of the frog-marching out of
the White House. Because irrespective of whether or not the Justice
Department determines that there was a crime committed and there is
prosecution of that crime, even in this bare-knuckles town of
Washington, it is below the belt of politics to drag a family member
out into the public square to administer a beating because you find
yourself unable to adequately discredit her husband who is your
adversary in this particular matter.
TN: So you don't blame Rove for the leak, you blame him for pushing the story and dragging your wife into the public square?
Wilson: It's not so much that I blame him, it's that my
information which I have no reason to disbelieve and every reason to
believe, particularly since Mr. Rove has now acknowledged through Mr.
McClellan that he in fact did talk about my wife to members of the
press, that the White House actually pushed this story.
TN: I don't recall him saying that.
Wilson: I think if you go back and take a look at something Mr.
McClellan said last week or the week before, you'll find that. I think
there was a statement that he acknowledged that he did speak about it
to somebody. That's what I've seen anyway. Notwithstanding that, after
all, this President set a certain standard when he was a candidate that
he was going to come to Washington to restore the dignity and honor to
the White House, he also said he was going to come to Washington and
change the tone. Now is that what he meant, that the family members of
people who point out the truth are subject to being slimed, to being
dragged out into the public square, to being outed? I doubt it, frankly
I think that is probably not what he had in mind but I'd certainly like
to see a little more suggestion of that from him.
TN: You don't suggest the President had any involvement in this?
Wilson: On the contrary, I have said repeatedly that I don't
think for a moment that the President of the United States would be
doing that sort of behavior. Moreover I have also said that I don't
believe that for a moment that the White House would have seen fit to
do to my wife what they have done simply because I contributed $2,000
to a campaign that wasn't their own.
TN: How about the Vice President?
Wilson: As for the Vice President, I reserve comment.
Judy: My notes do not show that Mr. Libby identified Mr. Wilson's wife by
name. Nor do they show that he described Valerie Wilson as a covert
agent or "operative," as the conservative columnist Robert D. Novak
first described her in a syndicated column published on July 14, 2003. There's Judy distinguishing herself as a Scooterian.
Remember that in her grand jury testimony account Judy was asked about "nepotism." I think it's clear that
Wilson's "two by six" theory describes leaks that have distinct
characteristics. Rove's leak effort concentrated on pushing the
nepotism angle while Libby's contained the "wife works for WINPAC"
theme. Gannon-Guckert is of the Rovian leak branch, and Judy is of the
Scooterian school. In fact, the
Mysterious Six are all Rovians, which is why Judy wasn't lying when she
denied being one of them.
But keep this in mind:
Joseph Wilson: Now, nobody has told me
the name of the leaker or who authorized the leak. I did not know until
I saw the Washington Post article that there were apparently two waves.
There was the wave of the leak, two by six, two leakers to six
journalists. And then there was a subsequent wave when Karl Rove and
perhaps the communications office were pushing the story.
I think Wilson doesn't quite have the waves sorted out here. There were actually two sources of the original smear effort - Rove and Libby. The Six were Rove targets. The smears are distinct enough for Fitzgerald to trace.
And where did Jeffy of Talon News and the White House Press Corps get it? He wasn't one of The Six, and he wasn't a Scooterian. He's singing the Rove theme song, though. Who was in the second wave? The Third Man?
INFO: Guckert/Wilson interview Part
I, Part
II, Part
III. The above quoted segment of the interview is from Part III. The infamous question, "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel
details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency
for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that
you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?" which revealed that Gannon/Guckert knew about the INR memo is from Part I.
THIS indicates that Novak was also a Scooterian. (October 5, 2003, interview on NBC's Meet the Press)
NOVAK: So in interviewing a senior administration official on a
number of other subjects, I asked him if he could explain why [Wilson
was chosen for the mission], and he said, "Well, his wife works in the
counterproliferation section at the CIA" and that she suggested his
mission. And it was given to me as an offhand manner and by a person
who is, as I wrote in the column, not a partisan gunslinger by any
means.
[...]
I know when somebody's trying to plant a story. This thing --
this came up almost offhandedly in the course of a very long
conversation with a senior official about many things, many things,
including ambassador Wilson's report.