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    The photos America doesn't want seen MORE photographs have been leaked of Iraqi citizens tortured by US soldiers at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison on the outskirts of Baghdad. Tonight the SBS Dateline program plans to broadcast about 60 previously unpublished photographs that the US Government has been fighting to keep secret in a court case with the American Civil Liberties Union. Although a US judge last year granted the union access to the photographs following a freedom-of-information request, the US Administration has appealed against the decision on the grounds their release would fuel anti-American sentiment. Some of the photos are similar to those published in 2004, others are different. They include photographs of six corpses, although the circumstances of their deaths are not clear. There are also pictures of what appear to be burns and wounds from shotgun pellets. The executive producer of Dateline, Mike Carey, said he was showing the pictures leaked to his program because it was important people understood what had happened at Abu Ghraib. Seven US guards were jailed following publication of the first batch of Abu Ghraib photographs in April 2004. Mr Carey said he could not explain why the photographs had not yet been published, as he thought it was likely that some journalists had them. "It think it's strange, maybe they think its more of the same."
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Wednesday, March 09, 2005

Warbloggers on the FAKE Pro-Syrian protest in Beirut

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The largest Greyhound bus has 55 passenger seats. How many busses does it take to bus a half-million person protest in from Syria?

Some warbloggers need to know. Here.

Oh, and this makes it even trickier. Those wily Syrians bussed in a half million men! All the protesters were men! The warbloggers know this because they've looked at all the pictures.

This is a classic "Good versus Evil" match-up, and it's why we must be willing to support the anti-Syrian side with EVERYTHING we got!

AND ANOTHER THING: Were all those angry pro-Syrian men Lebanese?
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THEREFORE, I think ONE MUST CONCLUDE that many MANY MANY of the Hizballah men demonstrating were Syrian - or Palestinian Arabs from the UN refugee camps. (AT LEAST HALF!)

That's ANOTHER reason we must support the pluralistic, pro-democracy - LEBANESE side over the pro-Syrian forces!

See? It's all logical and everything, and besides, if Glen Reynolds linked to it, it must be true.

And if Instamonger linked to it, well would other warbloggers be far behind?

UPDATE: Welcome ROGER L. SIMON readers! And if you're not one yet - YOU SHOULD BE - - EVERYDAY! And... WELCOME INSTAPUNDIT READERS! Glenn has other links on this issue - including one to a new AP story that suggests some cross-border busing - CHECK IT OUT! UPDATE #2: Welcome all you folks from NRO's The Corner - and thanks KJ! Please y'all check out a few other posts!
UPDATE: This informative comment was left in the thread following the above quoted post. Thanks to all the Antiwar/UFW readers who countered the poor hysterical Bushie in his comments.
lebanon. if the truth is what you want. i saw the marchers heading out to the rally. they were men, women and some children. the call was out to 30 political parties. there were christians and sunnis, druez and commies... you name it and the lebanese parties were there. the intent of the rally was three fold. 1. to thank syria, the soldiers they lost, blood they shed to help lebanon. 2. to make a statement to the u.n., rejecting res. 1559. 3. to voice their opinion that we need to get to the truth on the murder of hariri. maybe the concept of 1mil. participants is mind-blowing but when looking at the real crowd, it could well be that many people. the congestion was all throughout the country. this is a country who's land mass is virtually eaqual to mi.'s upper penninsula. so you can walk to downtown in a half hour. the roads were clogged with teenagers all pumped up, which is different than angry. there was also, an important fact ignored by all the media, not one single incident of violence against a woman or a man, by security or the army or the police. this is a country that g.w. would have the world believe was a country not ruled by law. lebanon is special, the lebanese are special people. the war has made them willing, willing to live and willing to die. i believe that the lebanese people want syria as a friendly neighbor, who will kick-ass if anyone wants to try anything. syria is not perfect, but it has a history and future linked with lebanon.
# posted by sincerely : 9:32 AM
sincerely appears to be starting a blog named lebanon. We'll have to keep an eye on that one.

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Men?

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/235/1241/640/All%20of%20them,%20huh.jpg

Those are Syrian cross-dressers, bussed in to Beirut by the evil Hezbollah.

a good article in today's asiatimes about lebanon . it has a nice toon too though i am not sure how to link it seperately.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GC10Ak02.html

"Instamonger." I like that.

What you America-haters fail to see is that Democracy is like cholesterol: there's good and bad kinds. The good kind is 70,000 Maronites, some showing cleavage. The bad kind is 500,000 infidels shouting "death to america." Bush knows the difference, and he's only supporting good cholesterol. I mean good democracy.

For further explanation, see former Iraq the Model blogger Ali's post on false concepts of democracy prevalent among Iraqis, on Free Iraqi.

We should have a pool on when Ali joins the resistance.

"Instamonger."

I can't remember where I heard it, but I doubt I made it up. I'm not sure though.

We should have a pool on when Ali joins the resistance

Better watch that kind of talk Tex, before Jarvis jumps on your ass.

hey tex how goes it?

ya know, i don't get one thing.
how is it that the bushies are pushing elections in a region they know is almost unanimously lined up against them.
the neocons are really stupid, but that stupid?
what's their real plan?

(i posted on this yesterday)

Actually, I think they are that stupid. Did you read Juan Cole on Wolfowitz today?

That's how stupid they are.

Alex:

Jarvis is too busy giving the NYT editor blowjobs.

i just read cole today
maybe you're right. maybe they are that stupid.

what would interest me, then, is what they think will happen if some kind of democracy actually comes about in the middle east.

i'm guessing it would be wonderfully creative.

I think they're such statists that they don't believe that the hatred for the US and Israel is really how the people feel. They think that sentiment comes from the "regime." They simply can't believe that the everyday joe in the ME would vote to kick the US completely out of their business, at the least.

That's why they think they can "decapitate" or "change" regimes and suddenly the formerly oppressed masses will rise up in joy and shower their liberators with rose petals.

You see the theme in all their rhetoric. The reason Palestinians hate Israel is because their textbooks tell them to. The reason Iranians have anti-american demonstrations is because the mullahs force them to. The Afghanis want to be modern but the Taliban oppressed them into the stone age.

And so on. Of course, whatever debacle they create in the ME will be labeled "victory" and anyone who points out how the region is in the midst of 5 civil wars will be a revisionist anti-american.

good point.

and speaking of Lebanon. did you see this?

"Lebanon's parliament has nominated as prime minister the same pro-Syrian legislator who quit the job a week ago after thousands of people rallied against him, political sources say."

what to say?

the neocons are really stupid, but that stupid?

Don't forget, these are the guys that wanted to hand over Iraq to Ahmed Chalabi and a 1000 of his paramilitaries.

Brian:

The opposition didn't even nominate anyone. But, the pro-democracy side is cuter and has more hot babes, so when the unopposed pro-Syria guy becomes PM you should call him anti-democratic anyway.

Those are the rules.

The neocon dream isn't 'democracy' it's faux democracy that offers several pre-approved pro-US pro-Israel pro-US-biz political parties. If that cannot be achieved it's turning every country in the Middle East into a collection of squabbling tribes that are so busy fighting each other that they cannot build a stable central government, provide advanced university study, or build high-tech effective modern armies.

That’s the most interesting thing about the Age of Neocons currently plaguing America: their unbelievable ignorance and outright stupidity.

They thought destroying a Sunni nation with a Shiite majority wouldn’t create a Shiite nation.

They thought this nation would somehow be unremittingly hostile to their Shiite neighbor.

They thought “democracy” and “permanent military occupation without recourse to the law” weren’t mutually exclusive.

They thought they could coerce them into accepting this anyway without sticking a friendly fellow with a machine gun on every street corner.

They think that it’s only an ever changing handful of evil people who are largely to blame for the perpetual violence there (which would actually be correct if they realized these people were in North America instead of Asia.).

They think that underneath the despotic heads of all the states in the region lies a populace that’s yearning to vote straight ticket Likud.

They think that doing the exact same thing will work out better next time.

It is rare, though not unprecedented, for dolts of this magnitude to wield and ultimately waste so much power. Leonid Brezhnev, Napoleon III, and the Spanish Habsburgs (for two consecutive centuries no less) were all remarkably dimwitted rulers who ruined their countries with amazing efficiency, and they’d all have been frontrunners for the “Dolt of the Century” award if such a thing existed.

As for the Neocons, an astute American has already nominated one of them (“the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth”) for Dolt of the 21st century, and even though it’s still early I have to admit they look like a lock from here!

Some pretty solid cases for the "they are that stupid."

They think that doing the exact same thing will work out better next time.

no kidding.

how does that expression go? "fool me once shame on me, fool me 15 times kick me in the head."

And now bush "reluctantly" agrees to involve Hezbollah...

goddamn.

I'm sure they'll deny this later though. The public was not supposed to know about it.

(but those Lebanese babes are hot though)

In response to: "but those Lebanese babes are hot though"

The Arab women from the Mediterranean tend to look similar to other Mediterranean women, i.e.: they’re pretty good looking.

I wonder if that will become the neo-economic justification for endless war. What with thin attractive women becoming incredibly scarce in America, the government is going abroad to secure supplies for the future.

While a fair number of cretins might support this, it could also lead to people putting a pretty face onto all the ‘terrorists’ the government is killing which would likely erode support for perpetual war against Arabs - especially the hot ones.

"the neocons are really stupid, but that stupid?
what's their real plan?"

Joseph Farah wants to eliminate the problem by getting rid of the people who oppose the US. Once we have killed or expelled all of them, the elections will go the way the US wants them to.

Shouldn't someone here comment on Mr. Farah's desire for ethnic-cleansing?

I'm a Chinese girl and like most Chinese I hate American
Maybe I'm not old enough to tell right from wrong but I do know what is humanality
Don't tell me about terrorist and democracy They can't be the reasons why so many innocent people shoud die

It speaks volumes that while you devote time to name-calling toward those who doubt the legitimacy of the pro-Syrian demonstration, you totally ignored the most recent anti-Syrian demonstration of approximately 800,000 people.

Name calling may now re-commence.

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